Comments on: bird style http://blog.meyerbros.org/2006/05/09/bird-style/ things we think Wed, 07 Jan 2009 13:17:04 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.5 by: carl http://blog.meyerbros.org/2006/05/09/bird-style/#comment-46 Thu, 18 May 2006 21:08:52 +0000 http://blog.meyerbros.org/2006/05/09/bird-style/#comment-46 oh. there's an XHTML tag I missed: <del>. That's the correct XHTML way to do strikethroughs. Makes sense - they changed the tag to reflect semantics (deleted text) rather than display (strikethrough). oh. there’s an XHTML tag I missed: <del>. That’s the correct XHTML way to do strikethroughs. Makes sense - they changed the tag to reflect semantics (deleted text) rather than display (strikethrough).

]]> by: eric http://blog.meyerbros.org/2006/05/09/bird-style/#comment-36 Thu, 11 May 2006 05:17:38 +0000 http://blog.meyerbros.org/2006/05/09/bird-style/#comment-36 from the top: <ol> <li>thanks</li> <li>yeah - IE thinks 15% is almost the entire area. very strange. i was working on a hack, but ran out of time.</li> <li>i'm not seeing the problem on their site. did they fix it or is FIREFOX MAC the answer to your question?</li> <li>paragraphs should have had some space, but more is fine. though i think i'll take it off the first paragraphs in each post - i like the top right up by the header.</li> <li>i also added a link in the banner. that's not a response to anything.</li> </ol> from the top:

  1. thanks
  2. yeah - IE thinks 15% is almost the entire area. very strange. i was working on a hack, but ran out of time.
  3. i’m not seeing the problem on their site. did they fix it or is FIREFOX MAC the answer to your question?
  4. paragraphs should have had some space, but more is fine. though i think i’ll take it off the first paragraphs in each post - i like the top right up by the header.
  5. i also added a link in the banner. that’s not a response to anything.
]]> by: carl http://blog.meyerbros.org/2006/05/09/bird-style/#comment-34 Thu, 11 May 2006 04:37:35 +0000 http://blog.meyerbros.org/2006/05/09/bird-style/#comment-34 hey guys - wow, things are rolling. This new look is very cool - actually it appears to work pretty well for wiki too. I've been completely out of it, all-day meetings yesterday, today, and again tomorrow. Just had a few minutes here to look in. The thing that was totally breaking IE is apparently the same thing that was breaking my author page, even in Firefox - the self-closing script tag you tried to use for the style-switching JS. I tracked the problem on my author page down to the piece of my custom sidebar that uses JS to pull in del.icio.us bookmarks. Seems that self-closing script tags Just Don't Work(tm). You've got to use </script>. A self-closed script tag apparently totally breaks the page in IE, and just breaks later script tags in Firefox. "bird" still doesn't actually work in IE Win, though - sidebar is bumped down below content. Also, for XHTML Strict no attributes without values (thus your script tag has to say defer="defer"), and there is no <strike> element - gotta use a span with style text-decoration:line-through. (Though that seems somewhat like a decrease in semantic markup rather than an increase - though I don't know if <strike> has a very clear meaning anyhow). Random link for the day (eric, you'll love this, it's right down the alley of your "block destroyer" style - except I don't think they're doing it on purpose) - <a href="http://www.glencoecamp.com" rel="nofollow">Glencoe CampResort</a>. This is one of the biker bars near Bear Butte that's building a massive outdoor amphitheatre to blast Native pray-ers off the mountain. But the point here is - what possible reason is there to set a self-pointing 0-second refresh? What are they trying to do? Are there browsers in which this page works? I tried IE Win - no go there either. Are they just trying to build suspense for their big site launch later this summer, or what? Oh, and I also added a margin-top for paragraphs, just because I find things easier to read with a little paragraph break. Was it an intentional choice to have no paragraph spacing in this style? hey guys - wow, things are rolling. This new look is very cool - actually it appears to work pretty well for wiki too. I’ve been completely out of it, all-day meetings yesterday, today, and again tomorrow. Just had a few minutes here to look in.

The thing that was totally breaking IE is apparently the same thing that was breaking my author page, even in Firefox - the self-closing script tag you tried to use for the style-switching JS. I tracked the problem on my author page down to the piece of my custom sidebar that uses JS to pull in del.icio.us bookmarks. Seems that self-closing script tags Just Don’t Work(tm). You’ve got to use </script>. A self-closed script tag apparently totally breaks the page in IE, and just breaks later script tags in Firefox.

“bird” still doesn’t actually work in IE Win, though - sidebar is bumped down below content.

Also, for XHTML Strict no attributes without values (thus your script tag has to say defer=”defer”), and there is no <strike> element - gotta use a span with style text-decoration:line-through. (Though that seems somewhat like a decrease in semantic markup rather than an increase - though I don’t know if <strike> has a very clear meaning anyhow).

Random link for the day (eric, you’ll love this, it’s right down the alley of your “block destroyer” style - except I don’t think they’re doing it on purpose) - Glencoe CampResort. This is one of the biker bars near Bear Butte that’s building a massive outdoor amphitheatre to blast Native pray-ers off the mountain. But the point here is - what possible reason is there to set a self-pointing 0-second refresh? What are they trying to do? Are there browsers in which this page works? I tried IE Win - no go there either. Are they just trying to build suspense for their big site launch later this summer, or what?

Oh, and I also added a margin-top for paragraphs, just because I find things easier to read with a little paragraph break. Was it an intentional choice to have no paragraph spacing in this style?

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